The Power of Possibility with Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
In this “The Experts” episode, 
Chuck Templeton sits down with 
Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, marine biologist, policy expert, author, and climate visionary.
They discuss Ayana’s most recent book What If We Get It Right: Visions of Climate Futures, which uses a blend of interviews, essays, and art to imagine a world where climate solutions lead to healthier ecosystems and thriving communities.
In this episode, Ayana challenges us to reframe climate action as an opportunity rather than a burden and emphasizes that focusing on what’s possible can inspire more people to get involved. Using strategies like a Climate Venn Diagram or breaking down jargon to find common ground, Ayana shares how anyone can find their place in climate work and bring others into the fold. At the end of the episode, we hear from a few of our entrepreneurs at Brimstone, Orange EV, XOCEAN, and Shiru, who share their visions for the future and how they think about centering themselves in their own Climate Venn Diagrams.
Climate work can be challenging, but Ayana’s refreshing perspective makes it feel not just possible, but deeply motivating.
Key Takeaways
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Ayana emphasizes the importance of focusing on the potential gains of climate solutions, like cleaner air, healthier communities, and better jobs, rather than the sacrifices involved. This positive framing can inspire broader support and faster adoption.
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Ayana introduces the Climate Venn Diagram as a strategic tool to help individuals align their skills, passions, and climate needs. This tool can help ensure that efforts are both impactful and personally fulfilling.
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Rather than waiting for federal policies, Ayana advocates for grassroots action. Whether it’s attending town meetings or influencing planning, so many important things happen on the local level, and community involvement can build momentum for larger systemic shifts.
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Ayana emphasizes that using clear, relatable language helps build consensus and makes solutions more accessible to everyone, regardless of background or expertise.
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Ayana argues that it’s not about being optimistic – it’s about recognizing that we have the solutions and we just need to find ways to implement them.